Montolio does some math:
I just wanted to share a little bit of personal rage with you.
OWN Alliance has 6 tech moons and 1 neo moon, this is at least 25b/mo, if not more.
They offer partial reimbursement on the following: interdictors, logistics
Thats it.
They charge 100 million per office and 250 million a month for a 50 man corporation to be in OWN.
What. The. Fuck.
Somebody is getting rich.
http://forum.pleaseignore.com/index.php?topic=4995.0
The always eloquent DHD explains what happened next:
Montolio made a thread about the fact that they had six Tech moons and only reimbursed logi and dictors; I said “That's
fucking shenanigans” and hit up Montolio on Jabber. I then asked “Can I go fuck with them” and he replied with a more
diplomatic “I don't fucking care, fuck off you aspie f*t”.
So I flew down to CU9, and upon the discovery of the fact that Deagol1 and Tereeeududrudrudruuduuruudrum are manchildren furiously mashing their fatass fingers against a keyboard to make what seem
like words, I went to town. Because it was easy.
Then, when Deagol PMed Montolio, and bitched about me, Montolio sent me the logs. This is the part where my dick is out and
I'm furiously masturbating, by the way.
So I troll some more, and I get some dudes riled up, and then a group of us come up with the idea to send a UN aid convoy down
to CU9. So we all grab NPC goods (livestock, water, cigarettes, etc.) go and anchor a small warp disruptor outside their
station, and begin making a tent city with supplies distributed in anchored cans.
Then we formed a 30 person conga line. Which was fun.
Oh, and during this time, Tez and BoodaBooda were working furiously to make videos while I wrote a UN press release.
Initial press release:
At 23:26 EVE Time, the United Nations Council For The Assistance of the Citizens of New Eden passed a proposal (213-2:
United States and Israel the negative parties) for the United Nations to intervene in the central Deklein region of space. The
party involved in the reception of aid is an entity knows as “OWN Alliance”. The people of this country are ruled by a a
dictator that is entirely unconcerned with the well-being of the citizens of his nation. The people live impoverished, unable
to receive any sort of recourse for the vessels lost in combat engagements.
To aid in this issue, the The United Nations has approved an aid flotilla consisting of members of Test Alliance Please Ignore
to CU9 in an effort to relieve the citizens of OWN Alliance. This flotilla will be carrying construction parts, water, food,
livestock, and other commodities essential to basic living. Hopefully, by alleviating the need for the members of OWN Alliance
to devote resources to their basic living, the citizens of this impoverished nation will be able to raise their standard of
living to that of other spacefaring nations.
This will not be an easy task; the dictator of OWN Alliance has already ordered a no-contact policy for all members of OWN
Alliance against interaction with members of the TEST Alliance Please Ignore aid flotilla. However, the flotilla has already
arrived in the OWN Alliance capital and is currently distributing medicine, food and various supplies to the citizens in need
of it most. We expect a full aid distribution infrastructure to be in place within the next fourteen days.
The dictator of OWN Alliance imposes draconian taxes on the citizens of his nation. Monthly dues, office rent, and other
fees/costs are all imposed on members of the nation, and while taking such exorbitant fees, the dictator refuses to implement
any infrastructure. The United Nations believes that these systems are essential to the survival of any spacefaring society.
These underdeveloped systems include, but are not limited to; ship replacement, industrial assistance programs, and resource
allocation infrastructure.
The United Nations is consistently committed to ensuring that all citizens of New Eden are cared for at a basic level; we feel
it is our duty to assist developing spacefaring nations and ensure their ability to support themselves is stable.
For more information, refer to these informative videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l20G9nr7cgY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxJbEi9Vn_M
Photos from the field:
http://i.imgur.com/S2Ten.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/IOmSo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/uvW5Q.png
http://i.imgur.com/sYNoT.png
http://i.imgur.com/VZgMQ.png
Kugutsumen threadnaught: http://www.kugutsumen.com/showthread.php?6915-UN-Authorizes-Aid-Flotilla-To-OWN-Territory
Eve online thread: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1396199
Chatporn with OWN leaders:
Montolio > Were you looking for me?
Deagol1 > o/
Deagol1 > ya can you talk with DurrHurrDurr
Deagol1 > hes in our local causing shit
Montolio > Whats he doing?
Deagol1 > going on about own isk and reimbersment
Montolio > Is it true?
Deagol1 > lol
Deagol1 > no
Deagol1 > thats why i am chatting with you
Montolio > TEST today discovered that OWN had 6 tech moons 1 neo moon charges 100mil/mo for an office and a corp of 50 pays 250 mil / mo in fees
Montolio > And that apparently you only reimburse logistics and interdictors
Montolio > If thats not the case, I can let people know
Deagol1 > we ahve been with tcf and around for many years
Deagol1 > you hvae been here 5 months
Deagol1 > we earned what we have
Deagol1 > and we spend anythign we make on the alliance
Deagol1 > even though this is none of your business
Montolio > I never said you didn't, but what is that ISK being spent on, if you don't mind answering for my curiosity?
Montolio > https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AlnyNGc6PAOwdG1LaW5EQlJ6VTNNQXZiU3haQmtZemc&hl=en&authkey=CKbl8ZwI#
Montolio > Thats all of TEST finances
Montolio > What we take in, what we spend, etc..
Deagol1 > you think its your business to tell other blues how to run there alliances?
Montolio > Not exactly, no
Deagol1 > you do that in real life?
Deagol1 > well…
Montolio > But if you aren't going to reimburse your pilots we are going to try to do it for you
Deagol1 > did you send the troll to own space?
Montolio > No, but we are discussing setting up a reimbursement fund based on donations for OWN pilots during fleet ops
Montolio > He probably got curious due to that discussion and went over to check it out
Deagol1 > lol cool thnx
Deagol1 > every little bit helps
Montolio > np m8
Montolio > We aren't all pyramid schemes
Montolio > :P
Deagol1 > re read the part above about our history and yours
Deagol1 >
Montolio > Its incredible that you can trick 1500 people into lining your pockets to be honest
Montolio > I wish my members were as gullable
Deagol1 > ?
Deagol1 > no one in own leadership is rich
Montolio > You make 25b + in moon profits alone
Deagol1 > as i said we ahve re spent all isk made on the alliance
Deagol1 > you can chgoose to not believe that
Deagol1 > i don't really care
Deagol1 > we have built 2 stations since we got the moons
Deagol1 > we have upgraded all our systems
Deagol1 > we have full logi and dic reimberse
Deagol1 > we also reimberse half caps
Montolio > We reimburse everything, have built a station, and have almost fully upgraded double the number of systems with less then half the moons or fees
Deagol1 > and regularly give shipa nd isk to pilots who are vvery active
Montolio > Just saying.
Deagol1 > our open is only for the couple typs to promote people to get in them
Montolio > “our open” ?
Deagol1 > add up the stations and the upgrades
Deagol1 > open reiembersment
Montolio > With your income levels you should be able to build a station every month
Deagol1 > we do others also but its not open to all\
Deagol1 > just the most active pilots
Montolio > A station is what, 20b?
Deagol1 > we had a corp that was very loayal too us and we gave them a mon for many months
Deagol1 > we have done that with a cou0ple corps
Montolio > So all the money is funneled to an upper class?
Deagol1 > lol i have 1.6 billion in my wallet
Deagol1 > i am far from rich
Deagol1 > and i am leader
Deagol1 > red also is not rich
Deagol1 > also putting up towers to get thigns going is not cheap
Deagol1 > we haven't had these moons for a long time really
Montolio > You said it yourself, you've been here for months
Deagol1 > we worked our ass's off and finallly we go somethign for it
Deagol1 > we have been with tcf for many years
Montolio > I can't fathom how you guys don't have a massive supercarrier fleet or something with that much income
Montolio > I don't think I have even seen an OWN supercarrier
Deagol1 > we only got the moons 6 or 7 months ago
Deagol1 > lol dude we have been running with the nc
Montolio > So you've made something between 125-150b in the last 6 months
Montolio > Where the fuck did all that go?
Deagol1 > we never ran in any dek coalition
Deagol1 > you need to join nc flets to see us
Deagol1 > read above
Montolio > That it went to the top corps?
Deagol1 > the alliance didn't control all m,oons
Montolio > Either way, its impressive that you can have that much ISK but such a narrow reimbursement policy
Deagol1 > ?
Deagol1 > lol dude we have over 75 billion in station and upgrades
Deagol1 > there was bnothign here when we got here
Deagol1 > and we were broke
Deagol1 > all since we got the moons has gone to upgradeing systems putting up stations reiembersment as much as we can and getting the moons running
Montolio > Okay, so 125b - 75b
Deagol1 > no one is rich thats a fact
Deagol1 > do the math
Montolio > So that leaves fifty billion left over
Deagol1 > no\
Deagol1 > your assuming all moons were fully upgraded the entire time
Deagol1 > because people want everythign at once we could't have them all doing tht for a long time
Deagol1 > your numbers are off
Deagol1 > if all the po's needed for complex reactions arn't upo you don't make all isk
Deagol1 > and thats a lot of cost
Deagol1 > people wanted the station and upgrades all at once
Montolio > Thats not counting reactions
Montolio > That base tech prices
Montolio > Thats*
Deagol1 > no base is like 2.5 maybe 3 on a good day per tech
Montolio > And you have 6 tech
Deagol1 > aye 15 a month or so
Deagol1 > we have spent over 75 billion
Deagol1 > not including reiembersment
Deagol1 > we also do caps reiemberse
Deagol1 > and ome of our corps have had control of the moons
Montolio > Where are you getting 15/mo?
Deagol1 > so we never made for the alliance anythign near 125 billion
Montolio > Tech is currently around 4b/mo
Montolio > at least afaik
Deagol1 > 2.5 billion times 6 moons
Deagol1 > if not all upgrades
Deagol1 > a basew tech makes 4 billion?
Montolio > yes, I believe so
Deagol1 > no our numbers are and have allways been 2.5 to 3 bill none complex
Deagol1 > 4 to 4.5 with complex
Montolio > You are terrible with moons or someone is skimming then
Deagol1 > lol dude
Montolio > Raw tech is 4b close to 5b a month right now
Montolio > without reactions
Montolio > When we moved in tech was about 3b / mo raw
Montolio > it hasn't been 2.5b for a long time
Deagol1 > 72k units times 17k = 1.2 billion
Deagol1 > you get 72k units a month and thats what they go for
Deagol1 > 2.5 sorry
Montolio > sec
Montolio > Let me dig up our spreadsheet
Montolio > https://spreadsheets0.google.com/ccc?key=tbbsVPTytE6ar7u8RV-Xt8A&authkey=CLWCmc8J&hl=en&authkey=CLWCmc8J#gid=1
Montolio > Can you view that?
Montolio > Thats a few months old
Montolio > July 30th wa the last time that was updated
Montolio > and prices have done nothing but go up
Deagol1 > how much per unit is that?
Montolio > 40k
Montolio > per unit its about 50-60k currently
Montolio > a tech moon is about 100 units per hour
Montolio > So thats lowend 3.6b unreacted
Montolio > *shrugs*
Montolio > Thats a lot of fucking money for you guys, especially with such limited reimbursements
Deagol1 > how much per piece was that sheet at?
Montolio > per unit?
Montolio > 40,142.00 ISK
Deagol1 > ya
Montolio > Current highest price in Jita is 60k for a buy order
Deagol1 > and low?
Montolio > well the lowest buy is obviously 0.01 heh
Deagol1 > your basing on it 40k per?
Montolio > We were in July
Montolio > The current low selling price is 61k/unit
Montolio > There is a buy order in Jita for 200k units @ 55,809
Montolio > Somebody is now telling me your stations were built with donation ISK?
Deagol1 > lol who is tlling you that?
Deagol1 > no
Montolio > Former own members
Montolio > “they had a big donation drive from their membership to fund the 2 stations”
Montolio > “they haven't paid the loans back yet”
Deagol1 > confirmed lier then
Deagol1 > lol that i not true
Deagol1 > is*
Montolio > Thats what people are telling me
Montolio > From the outside looking in, somebody is lining their pockets or you guys are grossly mismanaging your ISK
Deagol1 > well i am alliance leader and i am telling you they are liers
Montolio > Or you are building 3 titans and dont want to tell anyone
Deagol1 >
Deagol1 > you really shouldn't go around tellin alliance how they should run man thats seriously fucked up
Deagol1 > you been here a few months we been here years
Deagol1 > we earned what we have and we pour it back into the alliance
Montolio > So you deserve a little personal ISK right?
Montolio > For your history
Deagol1 > you don't belive that i don't really care
Deagol1 > no one in own has gotten rich
Deagol1 > period
Montolio > that you know of*
Deagol1 > i have 1.6 billion in my wallet
Montolio > I am a total fucking rd when it comes to moon shit and I still knew that base tech was 4-5b currently
Montolio > Your diplomat said you had outpost debts
Montolio > Jilozz did
Deagol1 > i wouold know i am leader me and Red
Deagol1 > did i or red?
Deagol1 > people can make mistakes
Montolio > So your saying not 1 ISK of donations or loans were used in making your stations?
Deagol1 > we had no donation drive
Deagol1 > if anyone has dontated randomly i'm sure thats happened
Montolio > Thats not what I have heard, but of course you are the alliance leader
Montolio > you would know
Montolio > 100 units per hour x 24 hours x 30 days = 72,000. 72,000 x 67,000 (current Jita sell price) = 4824000000, or 4.8 billion isk per month. Subtract whatever you pay for a month's POS fuel.
Montolio > This is the current Tech price math btw
Montolio > If you'd like I can have my industry guys generate some spreadsheets for you guys to use long term
Deagol1 > 1 sell order for 55k doesnt make it 67 current
Montolio > Lower it to 60 then
Deagol1 > either way we have been around years dude you don't think we should have stuff after years of service?
Montolio > I too would like a tech moon for personal income yes
Deagol1 > i don't have that
Montolio > Whats the retirement age? 6 months and then you get one?
Deagol1 > but after years i probbly should
Montolio > HAha
Montolio > Someone is rolling around in ISK over there
Montolio > We have less then half your moons and we have 30b in reserve
Montolio > I can only imagine what you guys are sitting on
Deagol1 > so you don't think an alliance should make ok isk after years of dedicated service to the cause?
Montolio > As far as I can see your alliance isn't
Montolio > A select group is
Deagol1 > http://own.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=7759350
Deagol1 >
Deagol1 > we allways have been very active
Deagol1 > and we spend all our isk 0on the alliance
Deagol1 > i listed many things that we have to spend isk on and do and you seem to think were jsut pocketing it
Deagol1 > were not
Montolio > The things you list + your current policies don't even come close to accounting for the ISK your alliance -should- have
Deagol1 > lol dude
Deagol1 > we never controlled all moons
Deagol1 > we have spend many billions
Deagol1 > we are morons for not taking isk for ourselfs actuallly
Montolio > So you guys don't reimburse drakes? fleet bs? cruisers? hacs?
Deagol1 > after thi many years of bullshit we deserve it
Deagol1 > but we don't take it
Montolio > I've also heard that if TeRedrum wants to run an anom that you are in he will tell you to get out or be podded, true?
Deagol1 > as i told you we reiemberse other things all the time but only to very active pilots
Deagol1 > no that is not true
Montolio > So you have selective reimbursements for the elite upper class
Montolio > Who gives a shit about those plebs anyways
Deagol1 > dude you really listen to ex members on alliance policy?
Deagol1 > not jsut elite
Deagol1 > verya active\
Deagol1 > i don't give a shit if your 6 years old if your not active your useless
Montolio > Haha, okay.
Deagol1 > can you get this troll out of our system?
Montolio > He will probably be helping to administer our OWN reimbursement program
Montolio > we are still hashing out the details
Montolio > Should we require certain fits?
Deagol1 > your a dick
Deagol1 > i have explained
Montolio > Most of the time, yes.
Deagol1 > i see that heh
Montolio > you're* by the way
Deagol1 > k ty
Montolio > No problem
Montolio > My members always correct me
Deagol1 > cool
Montolio > They tend to be helpful when they aren't shafted constantly by the alliance leaders :(
Deagol1 > dude wtf
Montolio > Should it be called “TEST Alliance: Financial Aid Division” or “Test Alliance Humanitarian Aid, Please Ignore”
Deagol1 > so you condone DurrHurrDurr smacking own in local?
Montolio > Is it funny or true?
Deagol1 > it's complete bullshit and he has no clue
Montolio > I bet its funny at least sometimes
Deagol1 > i have explained it now to you though
Deagol1 > so…
Montolio > I mean he isn't always irritating
Deagol1 > yes he is
Deagol1 > him and rastino
Montolio > Rastino made me laugh once, I think it was some sort of dead baby joke if I recall
Montolio > Probably inappropriate
Deagol1 > rastino link stuck
Montolio > “link struck” ?
Deagol1 > aye i linked his name to check his history and now unless i enter it it won't go away
Montolio > He trolls you AND breaks your client
Montolio > Thats dedication
Deagol1 > heh try linke a name but not say it
Deagol1 > he keeps locking own why?
Montolio > Who?
Deagol1 > DurrHurrDurr
Montolio > Maybe he is trying to rep
Deagol1 > leaving station means you don't need rep normallly
Montolio > I dunno, you guys probably charge for repair services
Deagol1 > lol
Deagol1 > not sure if the NC will like an alliance that griefs other blues in local for no reason hmm…
Montolio > Probably not
Deagol1 > and your chat here says very clearly you support his actions
Deagol1 > and you are leader
Montolio > Somebody has to help your members
Montolio > They pay dues without reimbursements
Deagol1 > heh k i'm sure this will workout very well for you
Montolio > It will end hilariously I am sure!
Deagol1 > woot
Montolio > http://i.imgur.com/Mrsob.png
Deagol1 > lol gw
Montolio > http://i.imgur.com/oyxq6.jpg
Deagol1 > weee
Montolio > We are working on a video now I think
Deagol1 > nice
Montolio > http://tinyurl.com/own-reimbursement
Montolio > program details will be up soon
Deagol1 > dues go to the top 5 pvp corps each month fyi
Deagol1 > kk
Montolio > “We aren't a pyramid scheme, promise!”
Deagol1 > such hate for a new alliance damn
Montolio > Haha
Deagol1 >
Montolio > I'll check back with you later m8 when we have more details, if you have approved fits you can forward them to me
Montolio > http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/5647/mrsobbetter.png
Montolio >
Deagol1 > lol newb
Montolio > We've anchored free water outside your station
Deagol1 > thnx man your swell
Montolio > http://imgur.com/mfela.png
Montolio > new one btw
Deagol1 > now you sent a crew to grief us?
Montolio > Which? The badgers?
Deagol1 > rgr
Montolio > Thats the UN Aid Flotilla
Deagol1 > lol
Montolio > So now you are trying to censor the truth?
Montolio > Please block all test alliance if you see them in local.
They have decided to start grieving us. This is completely unprovoked.
We are dealing with this in private please block them until further notice.
Deagol1 > lol spying on your friends
Deagol1 > you guys are class
Deagol1 > and yes i did just send that ofcourse
Montolio > Your members are forwarding me this stuff
Deagol1 > heh
Montolio > So we factored your member dues into the estimated moon goo and office fees and are ballparking about 36.3b / month in alliance income before any sort of ratting or mission taxes and station fees
Deagol1 > lol do i care what you think?
Montolio > Do you?
Deagol1 > none of your business
Deagol1 > neg i do not
Montolio > Well I care what you think!
Deagol1 > heh k
Deagol1 > i think you need to pay yuor dues and earn more
Montolio > Your pay scale doesn't go up to 2500 though
Deagol1 > rather then cry for more like little children
Montolio > how much is that? like 750mil ?
Montolio > We just donated our first drake btw
Deagol1 > you need more moons then you could send us more
Deagol1 > havig fun yet?
Montolio > You mean you will take moons on our behalf? That would be nice of you
Deagol1 > tell you what give us one of your moons thenyou don't have to send us aid?
Deagol1 > save you in logistics
Montolio > We are trying to help the people of OWN, not the brutal government that is withholding precious resources that the people desperately need
Deagol1 > lol
Montolio > With the corruption in your administration focusing our resources at the top would accomplish nothing, what we need is a grassroots movement.
Deagol1 > heh
Deagol1 > i think i found a name for your alliance man
Deagol1 > newbs
Montolio > Already taken
Deagol1 > you will leanr you have to earn stuff not cry for it
Deagol1 > learn*
Deagol1 > takes some time you will be ok
Deagol1 > this griefing locals plan might not be great though heh
Montolio > Its a terrible plan
Deagol1 > heh rgr
Montolio > You seem mad though
Deagol1 > we have done nothing
Deagol1 > this is alllllll you
Deagol1 > nothing wrong that is heh
Deagol1 > mad?
Montolio > Yeah
Deagol1 > heh you don't know he
Montolio > Why? Are you or are you not mad?
Deagol1 > no i am not mad
Deagol1 > newbs do dumb stuff nothign to get mad about
Montolio > True enough, its just that you seemed mad.
Montolio > You can let me know if you care, we can talk about it.
Deagol1 > when?
Deagol1 > show me?
Deagol1 > heh
Montolio > Well you did call us newbs
Montolio > That hurt my feelings
Deagol1 > thats fact man heh
Deagol1 > lol
Deagol1 > want me to start reposting our earlier chat?
Montolio > To where?
Deagol1 > to here
Deagol1 > to show where you were mean first many times?
Deagol1 > over and over?
Montolio > That seems like it would take a lot of effort
Deagol1 > not really
Montolio > What would that accomplish?
Deagol1 > Montolio > That hurt my feelings
Deagol1 > Deagol1 > to show where you were mean first many times?
Deagol1 > just making sure you understand who started all tis is all
Montolio > http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1396199
Montolio > http://www.kugutsumen.com/showthread.php?6915-UN-Authorizes-Aid-Flotilla-To-OWN-Territory&p=120971#post120971
Deagol1 > i don't read forums i hear they give you acne
Deagol1 > whats it say?
Montolio > Explaining what we are doing
Deagol1 > dude jsut needed one word hope you didn't use more and waste your time
Deagol1 > i kow you know what that word is
Deagol1 > know*
Montolio > masturbation?
Deagol1 > newb
Deagol1 > good try though
Montolio > I would prefer masturbation
Deagol1 > miss's the point though
The Mittani is not amused:
CEOing was calm last update, and I wrote a lot of words about administrative crap no one cared about. This update is more
about conversations with or about enraged neighbors eating up vast amounts of my time. It seems that my role as Fuzzy,
Adorable, Completely Tyrant of Deklein sometimes boils down to being a glorified kindergarten teacher; I have to spend a
lot of time keeping TEST from eating paste and/or stabbing OWN in the eye with a pencil. This week I was looking the other
way, TEST somehow grabbed the pencil and has been going after OWN with the implacable determination that only a six-year-old
in a mood can muster.
The timing couldn't have been worse, because I had already spent an enormous amount of energy working with OWN and trying to
convince their leadership that I really wasn't about to tear them into bloody shreds and decorate VFK with little origami
cranes made out of their skin. Understandably, after abruptly decapitating BCA, there was a lot of mutual mistrust to work
out; however, we got through it, and OWN began showing up massively on our ops. For example, on tonight's strategic op we
had 23 OWN subcaps and four capitals chewing on Ev0ke with us. I like that. That makes me happy. That should make you happy,
too.
So I went from a lot of convos with TeRedrum and Jilozz working on integration and understanding to a lot of convos trying
to somehow restrain TEST from trolling OWN into a rampage, cascade, or breakdown. This began with the UN Aid Convoy
dramadey, which I can't openly admit that I found absolutely hilarious if completely inappropriate. This pranke promptly
re-convinced most of OWN that I wanted to murder them, despite having nothing to do with it. For a while I tried to be
diplomatic and reassuring, then I ended up snapping and telling OWN that they needed to man up and learn how to troll back,
yelled at Montolio about how I don't care what OWN does with its pilots, and took my ball and went home.
Apparently my desire to avoid drama convos and play with my dollies (ie, my personal dreadnaught armada) was interpreted by
TEST as a great chance to grab that pencil again and really get OWN good this time. TEST has now completely audited OWN's
books for them and are spamming an unfriendly looking spreadsheet in every channel they can find. Right now it is 3am
Central time. This isn't the best time to write a CEO Update under normal circumstances, but OWN and TEST are napping at the
moment, and pretty much all of tomorrow is going to be wasted sorting this crap out and trying to mollify various angry or
stabby parties, so this was my ~one chance~ to get this out.
A couple of weeks pass…
OWN alliance is being evicted from Deklein for their leadership's repeated refusals to submit api keys to explain their
breathtaking financial malfeseance. Vuk will be finding them a new home on the eastern front. Over the past two months the
leadership of OWN have demonstrated a persistant resistance to working with us in the region when not outright conspiring to
try to poison us to the rest of our allies. Despite weeks of patient restraint on my part, my tolerance has reached its end.
OWN will be decamping to Venal, or wherever; I don't give a fuck. They have a week to evacuate their membership's assets and
must commence de-sovving their territory immediately. If they resist or attempt to fight they will be reset and purged with
extreme prejudice. Please be prepared to ensure their safe exit from Deklein should their leadership continue to display
their signature disregard for our ownership of this region.
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From Vile Rat:
Dear friends a matter of sadness and regret befalls us all
Over the course of our time in Eve we've lived in a great many regions. I started back in the original Syndicate days and
loved it, then rejoiced as we invaded Cloud ring as it was fun and our first step into the great realm of conquerable 0.0.
We lost but moved on to the south and conquered pretty much the whole thing, it was fun. We all know the story behind our
collapse in Delve and our eventual rebirth amongst our friends in Deklein. TCF opened their doors to us and when they
decided the time was right they granted their realm to us to manage and care for as they reached their twilight years. We
have been good stewards of this region and have rebuilt our empire from its riches while making some really good friends and
expanding our future possibilities.
Inevitably as we solidified operational control of Deklein and the formation of the Deklein Coalition there were inevitable
problems, namely existing tenants who felt the power vacuum presented an opportunity for self advancement at our expense.
This thread is naturally about our former tenant OWN alliance.
We have exercised herculean restraint over the course of our repeated attempts to reach a diplomatic solution with OWN
alliance. Normally when faced with contempt and disobedience we have reacted with force, but we tried a new tactic of
negotiation and patience with OWN and gave them every opportunity to buy into our plan for the region and to get on board
with our greater plan that would enable every member of the DC to reach success and advancement in their place in eve. They
have rejected every attempt to coexist and instead obstinately continued to express that they were our equals and not a
member of the coalition we lead. They would continuously thumb their nose at our military adventures while touting their
deployments with the NC as some sort of measuring stick for their worthiness to hold the little strip of Deklein they
squatted on.
We tried but sadly we failed. Our best diplomatic efforts were not enough to convince them to be a part of what we are
building so we have asked them to depart our region for locales unknown. They have one week to get the fuck out and then
maybe they will help the NC maybe they will fly off into the sunset.
So with a heavy heart I retreat to the cold comfort of the 90's superband Semisonic and leave you lyrics to express my
sorrowful feelings
~closing time, You don't have to go home but you can't stay here~
Get the fuck out OWN, you're dead to us.
Let them depart, don't harass them, but if they aren't gone in a week we'll be revisiting this post.
Another week passes… OWN is the gift that keeps on giving.
(9:45:15 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: apparently own want … compensation for the stations!
(9:45:21 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: I don't think they understand what the dynamic is here.
(9:46:35 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: they gonna compensate us for the ammo we're about to have to use tearing down their shit?
(9:46:44 AM) own-own-teredrum: only pos you cried about was the 6 tech moon pos own had, which you asked for within 24 hours, which you know hold control of
(9:46:54 AM) own-own-teredrum: vile come shoot my shit
(9:47:03 AM) own-own-teredrum: you aggress my guys we will fight back
(9:47:04 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: ok well since you asked.
(9:47:24 AM) own-own-teredrum: all you wanted was the moons , you have them
(9:47:29 AM) own-own-teredrum: were leaving
(9:47:31 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: no that is incorrect.
(9:47:40 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: We said the moons within 24 hours and evac within a week
(9:47:55 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: minus the supers that we acknowledge are in build
(9:47:56 AM) own-own-teredrum: well evac when all our stuff is out
(9:48:02 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: your week is up.
(9:48:03 AM) own-own-teredrum: which is nearly complete
(9:48:06 AM) own-own-teredrum: so relax
(9:48:17 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: No
(9:48:24 AM) own-own-teredrum: like i said you aggro our shit we will fight back
(9:48:46 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: http://coalition.mor...hp?topic=1264.0 second post in the thread
(9:48:54 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: it might look familiar, it's my post! of the convo I had with you!
(9:49:03 AM) own-own-teredrum: your forum spam means shit to me
(9:49:11 AM) own-own-teredrum: like i said were alomst out
(9:49:18 AM) own-own-teredrum: almost
(9:49:26 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: No you're giving us the run around and not responding when our guys ask for information
(9:50:01 AM) own-own-teredrum: sorry own doesnt bow to goon
(9:50:04 AM) own-own-teredrum: like some
(9:50:14 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: wait correct me if I'm wrong,
(9:50:25 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: but aren't we discussing you not getting your shit and getting the fuck out quite quick enough for our liking?
(9:50:40 AM) own-own-teredrum: i dont care what you like tbh
(9:50:48 AM) own-own-teredrum: were leaving
(9:50:51 AM) own-own-teredrum: leave it at that
(9:51:16 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: well if you aren't gone by the close of business today,
(9:51:24 AM) own-own-teredrum: then what
(9:51:24 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: we're just gonna assume you aren't going to leave.
(9:51:30 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: and your week will be up.
(9:51:43 AM) own-own-teredrum: and like i said, if you aggro own, we will fight back
(9:51:58 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: No you won't, get off your unbelievably short high horse.
(9:52:56 AM) own-own-teredrum: your the internet tough guy and im done shitting up jabber of your nonsense, were leaving dek, we should be done in less than 3 days tops. you have our tech moons.
(9:53:06 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: well if you aren't gone by boot,
(9:53:06 AM) own-own-teredrum: so im sure a few more days you can accomidate
(9:53:37 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: we could but we choose not to. What point is a deadline if you just ignore it
(9:53:50 AM) own-own-teredrum: im sure you will honor it o/
(9:54:02 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: we have haven't we? We haven't popped your nyx in build either.
(9:54:11 AM) own-own-teredrum: and you wont either
(9:54:16 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: or you'll do what?
(9:54:23 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: really let's go down this path a few steps.
(9:54:34 AM) own-own-teredrum: your a joke , why you guys even here is beyond me
(9:54:44 AM) own-own-teredrum: ask goon
(9:54:45 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: really go ahead and finish the sentence. What are you going to do?
(9:54:51 AM) own-own-teredrum: no drama till goon showed up
A couple of hours after this chat, OWN dropped sov in their systems. Except for FO8M, where they have a CSAA making a supercap… which Pandemic Legion promptly attacked. Oh the humanity.
Dear friends, a tragedy has befallen our fair region. Our mortal enemies, the knaves of Pandemic Legion, have launched a
cowardly attack against the CSAA of our former guests OWN alliance. This action is one which I condemn in the strongest
possible terms: it is (dare I say it?) a most ungentlemanly thing to do, something one might expect from one of the (heavens!)
lower classes. Absolutely despicable. Consider this announcement my wagging, disapproving finger in PL's direction.
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