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=====Pochven Krab Fleets and You=====
====aka we aren't filamenting your Atron====
A new age of group PVE is upon us and this guide will serve as a brief primer on how to get in fleet, be effective, and most importantly make profit from the most pointy region of space. These fleets can vary in how they operate depending on the corp running them so this guide is written to be very general and is only intended as a crash course.
The fleet comp is typically 9 DPS, 4 Logi, and 2 Links Boats for running the actual site along with other ships to ensure their security. The supporting cast includes shuttle scouts, dictors, and combat alts in smaller ships. Positive Trig standings are required to go on the fleets.
Please note that the fits used and sites run are mildly sp intensive and require pilots to be well acquainted with most aspects of fleet operations. **This is NOT literally just started playing Eve a week ago oriented PVE.**
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===="Eff See what is a Poch Ven?"====
Pochven, aka Trig Space, is an area of New Eden that is accessible through consumables called filaments that "yeet" you in and out and have 15 minute timers between uses. It is essentially with gates, you do not show up in local unless you speak and you cannot jump clone in or out. Currently Horde has allowed us access to their Fortizar in **Skarkon**, one of the handful of player owned structures that exist in the region.
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Electus Matari wrote this some time after pochven launched last year if it's helpful for anyone.
https://pochven.electusmatari.com/
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====Positive Trig Standings Speedrun====
If **all** fleet members have positive trig standings, Observatory Flashpoints become significantly easier to run
- Grab a cheap ship. Bring a "Glorification 'Devana'" and a "Internal 'Pochven'" filament
- Use the internal filament to get to Pochven
- Take gates until you find a "Incipient drone Swarm" site
- Make sure you have "Rogue Drone Entities " on your overview or show all brackets
- Warp in, kill a drone or apply ewar and kill the drone with a different character
- Wait 10m to get your standing
- Use the glorification filament to leave
Credit to Tex Severasse of DiVa
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====Best Practices====
**Having shuttle scouts and dictor alts watching gates in Pochven is CRITCAL!** If you have more than one account you should at least be bringing shuttle scouts as there is no excuse not to. There is also a need for smaller combat ships like caracals, primarily for clearing hostile dictors attempting to slow the fleet. While multiboxing is condoned on these fleets **you should not multibox logi**.
Forming quickly with the right ships is imperative to a successful krab run. There is heavy competition for these sites and baddies love to gank these highly visible fleets so keeping time from ping to site completion low is crucial. The majority of the following directions are written with this in mind.
If you intend to do Poch Fleets, have your shit ready.
* Have a clone ready to go in a Poch fleet staging (T0DT, Jita)
* Ships will be on contract in Skarkon, or you can bring your own from Jita or T0D if you have it fit, w/ a Krai-Svarog Filament
* **Ensure you have enough irl time to do the run, it really sucks when someone has to drop out after the fleet yeets as we are doing tough sites were the total payout is greatest at max members.**
Enable the FC to figure out asap if he has the numbers and fleet comp to go.
* When joining the fleet you will be placed into a Watchlist squad, say in Fleet your role, as either DPS, Logi, Links or some combination of the three you can fly. The FC will sort you in your role
* Once the fleet has numbers ready to run the sites, put your utility alts(tackle, shuttle scouts, sabres), into the fleet and say `alt` in fleet to get moved into the alt squad. These will not be going into the site with the main fleet
* Once the fleet is green lit make sure all pilots are in fleet and warp yourself to the fc to filament. If you already in Skarkon, or going from Jita, drop fleet to allow the T0D group to filament
* If you are reading this, add the word slice somewhere in your application
* Once you get into the region, you will head to the fort in Skarkon while scouts go out to search for sites
In regards to PvP in Pochven:
* We will be participating regularly in fighting other fleets in Pochven. There is only 3 sites at a time, and if you are not willing to fight for a site, you will not get any sites.
* We are here w/ the help of Horde, so if Horde asks us for help, we will be coming to help them either escape, or fight reds.
* There is no SRP for PvP fights here. If you are not comfortable with this, don't join this fireteam The fits themselves only need 2-3 runs to replace at most, so that will act as our SRP
* Always trying to bring an alt if you can to assist in pvp combat. The Battleships needs support ships to really shine, as they do not carry much utility themselves
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===Will we get any SRP if we die?===
There will be no SRP for PVE losses. This is a slightly more dangerous, however lucrative way of making ISK and will therefore not have any SRP! Regarding PVP it is currently a WIP.
===Notes for running the sites===
==Is Logi any different here compared to regular PVP fleets?==
Please do not multibox Logi. Join the ingame channel TEST_POCHVEN_LOGI for capchain setup. Communicate with your fleet to guarantee everyone's survival. Orbit the main FC at 2500m and follow FC's commands carefully whenever you need to turn on your prop mod.
==Can we talk in Pochven local?==
Please do not say anything. Treat it as Wormhole space. Doing so will have you removed from the fleet!
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====Fits====
As of Nov 2021, the following are the go to fits for Poch fleets
**DPS**
[Typhoon, Torp Poch Phoon ]
Crosslink Compact Ballistic Control System
Ballistic Control System II
1600mm Steel Plates II
1600mm Steel Plates II
Multispectrum Coating II
IFFA Compact Damage Control
Reactive Armor Hardener
500MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Missile Guidance Computer II
Missile Guidance Computer II
Faint Epsilon Scoped Warp Scrambler
Heavy F-RX Compact Capacitor Booster
Torpedo Launcher II
Torpedo Launcher II
Torpedo Launcher II
Torpedo Launcher II
Torpedo Launcher II
Torpedo Launcher II
Large Remote Armor Repairer II
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Explosive Armor Reinforcer I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Warrior II x5
Ogre II x4
Mjolnir Rage Torpedo x500
Scourge Rage Torpedo x500
Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo x1000
Inferno Javelin Torpedo x1000
Navy Cap Booster 800 x2
Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo x500
Caldari Navy Scourge Torpedo x1000
Missile Range Script x2
Missile Precision Script x2
Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo x1000
Inferno Rage Torpedo x1698
Nanite Repair Paste x100
Caldari Navy Nova Torpedo x1000
Synth Crash Booster x3
**Logi**
[Guardian, Poch Guardian]
Damage Control II
1600mm Steel Plates II
Reactive Armor Hardener
Dark Blood EM Armor Hardener
Dark Blood Thermal Armor Hardener
50MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Sensor Booster II
Large Coaxial Compact Remote Armor Repairer
Large Coaxial Compact Remote Armor Repairer
Medium Remote Armor Repairer II
Medium Remote Armor Repairer II
Large Inductive Compact Remote Capacitor Transmitter
Large Inductive Compact Remote Capacitor Transmitter
Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Warrior II x5
Targeting Range Script x1
Scan Resolution Script x2
ECCM Script x1
Nanite Repair Paste x197
Standard Mindflood Booster x1
**Links**
[Loki, Simulated Loki Fitting]
Syndicate 1600mm Steel Plates
Reactive Armor Hardener
True Sansha Explosive Armor Hardener
Damage Control II
Multispectrum Energized Membrane II
50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Phased Scoped Target Painter
Republic Fleet Medium Cap Battery
Expanded Probe Launcher II
Auto Targeting System II
Skirmish Command Burst II
Skirmish Command Burst II
Skirmish Command Burst II
Small Energy Nosferatu II
Small Energy Nosferatu II
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Command Processor I
Medium Command Processor I
Loki Core - Immobility Drivers
Loki Defensive - Augmented Durability
Loki Offensive - Support Processor
Loki Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers
Warrior II x5
Acolyte II x5
Rapid Deployment Charge x1000
Nanite Repair Paste x200
Evasive Maneuvers Charge x1000
Interdiction Maneuvers Charge x1000
Standard Mindflood Booster x5
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II x1
'Halcyon' Core Equalizer I x1
Interdiction Nullifier I x1
[Absolution, Absolution]
Thermal Armor Hardener II
Imperial Navy 1600mm Steel Plates
IFFA Compact Damage Control
Imperial Navy Multispectrum Energized Membrane
EM Armor Hardener II
Kinetic Armor Hardener II
Explosive Armor Hardener II
Phased Scoped Target Painter
Phased Scoped Target Painter
50MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Armor Command Burst II
Armor Command Burst II
Armor Command Burst II
Medium Inductive Compact Remote Capacitor Transmitter
Medium Inductive Compact Remote Capacitor Transmitter
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Command Processor I
Warrior II x5
Optimal Range Script x1
Tracking Speed Script x1
Armor Energizing Charge x600
Rapid Repair Charge x600
Armor Reinforcement Charge x600
Nanite Repair Paste x100
**Vedmak DPS Option**
[Vedmak, PochVedmak]
Corpum B-Type EM Energized Membrane
Entropic Radiation Sink II
Corpum C-Type Thermal Energized Membrane
Reactive Armor Hardener
1600mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates
Multispectrum Energized Membrane II
50MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Warp Scrambler II
10MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner
Small Capacitor Booster II
Heavy Entropic Disintegrator II
Medium Ghoul Compact Energy Nosferatu
Small I-ax Enduring Remote Armor Repairer
Small I-ax Enduring Remote Armor Repairer
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Hammerhead II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5
Baryon Exotic Plasma M x1000
Meson Exotic Plasma M x1000
Occult M x3500
Mystic M x3000
Nanite Repair Paste x50
Navy Cap Booster 200 x56
Burst Jammer II x1
**Ikitursa DPS Option**
[Ikitursa, Simulated Ikitursa Fitting]
Assault Damage Control II
Entropic Radiation Sink II
Entropic Radiation Sink II
Imperial Navy Multispectrum Energized Membrane
Reactive Armor Hardener
Syndicate 1600mm Steel Plates
50MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Republic Fleet Medium Cap Battery
Warp Disruptor II
Small F-RX Compact Capacitor Booster
Coreli A-Type Small Remote Armor Repairer
Coreli A-Type Small Remote Armor Repairer
Coreli A-Type Small Remote Armor Repairer
Heavy Entropic Disintegrator II
Medium EM Armor Reinforcer II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Valkyrie II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5
Mystic M x2000
Navy Cap Booster 400 x25
Optimal Range Disruption Script x1
Missile Range Disruption Script x1
Tracking Speed Disruption Script x1
Tetryon Exotic Plasma M x2000
Baryon Exotic Plasma M x1500
Meson Exotic Plasma M x1500
Occult M x2500
Missile Precision Disruption Script x1
Multispectral ECM II x1
Guidance Disruptor II x1
Gravimetric ECM II x1
Stasis Webifier II x1
Tracking Disruptor II x1
Target Painter II x1
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===Sites and Payouts===
[[https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Observatory_Flashpoint|Observatory Flashpoints are the usual sites.]] For a fleet of 6 to 15 they payout around 230 million isk per pilot and include Trig dreadnaught related loot.
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===Applying to the Fireteam===
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Follow the Gain standings guide above.
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In your application to the Fireteam, add an imgur of your positive Trig standings, and ensure you can fly one of these two fits w/ the toon you're applying with.
https://skills.pleaseignore.com/listchars/pack/557/
https://skills.pleaseignore.com/listchars/pack/482/