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 =====Types Of Marketing===== =====Types Of Marketing=====
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 =====Guerrilla Marketing===== =====Guerrilla Marketing=====
-Guerrilla marketing is an unconventional system of promotions that relies on time, energy and imagination rather than a big marketing budget. This section is going to cover being a tremendous ​faggot ​vis a vis money, not just marketing.+Guerrilla marketing is an unconventional system of promotions that relies on time, energy and imagination rather than a big marketing budget. This section is going to cover being a tremendous ​moron vis a vis money, not just marketing.
   ***Steal Ideas:** When you hear a really good idea for making money being discussed on teamspeak or in the gs_isk jabber channel, ask politely appreciative questions about the details of their operation. Tease out the details. Most EVE players love bragging about how much money they make, and how they make it. As soon as you have a good idea of how their operation works, either put it into action yourself and undercut them, or file it away in your brain for later. Even if the idea itself is impractical for your purposes, it may inspire you later on.   ***Steal Ideas:** When you hear a really good idea for making money being discussed on teamspeak or in the gs_isk jabber channel, ask politely appreciative questions about the details of their operation. Tease out the details. Most EVE players love bragging about how much money they make, and how they make it. As soon as you have a good idea of how their operation works, either put it into action yourself and undercut them, or file it away in your brain for later. Even if the idea itself is impractical for your purposes, it may inspire you later on.
   ***Shamelessly Self-Promote:​** Don't post in WTB/WTS threads that you're selling such and such obscure product. Rather, post a thread about said product asking about and extolling its virtues. Get people interested in what you're selling and they'​ll buy it off the market and in WTB/WTS. Had I been doing so as a guerrilla marketing technique, I would have stocked the market on the front lines with a couple dozen Tacklemallers ahead of time, and perhaps started an WTB/WTS thread about selling the complete packages. ​   ***Shamelessly Self-Promote:​** Don't post in WTB/WTS threads that you're selling such and such obscure product. Rather, post a thread about said product asking about and extolling its virtues. Get people interested in what you're selling and they'​ll buy it off the market and in WTB/WTS. Had I been doing so as a guerrilla marketing technique, I would have stocked the market on the front lines with a couple dozen Tacklemallers ahead of time, and perhaps started an WTB/WTS thread about selling the complete packages. ​
   ***Provoke Market Stampedes:​** This has been used to great effect with timecards and moon minerals before, but can apply to other things equally well. In effect, instead of waiting for a profitable market trend to occur, you invest in a product and then spread rumor amongst your social network, the forums, and eve-o that it will rapidly increase in price. Assuming your "hot tips" seem credible and your network is expansive enough, people investing in what you are will provoke the price change that you predicted would occur. Congrats, you're psychic.   ***Provoke Market Stampedes:​** This has been used to great effect with timecards and moon minerals before, but can apply to other things equally well. In effect, instead of waiting for a profitable market trend to occur, you invest in a product and then spread rumor amongst your social network, the forums, and eve-o that it will rapidly increase in price. Assuming your "hot tips" seem credible and your network is expansive enough, people investing in what you are will provoke the price change that you predicted would occur. Congrats, you're psychic.
-  ***Scare People Away:​** ​This is some real faggot shit. Scare away the competition by implying that what you're doing is unprofitable,​ difficult, time-consuming,​ and frustrating. This has been done by greedy ​jews in Goonfleet since Syndicate about moon mining, exploring, invention, rig manufacturing,​ implant importation,​ and even ratting. Pretty much anything that makes money will have people trying to dissuade others from trying it out. New game mechanics are especially vulnerable to this tactic, because good information may not be readily available about said new feature. For example, when rigs were first introduced they seemed over-expensive and nearly impossible to acquire sufficient quantities of, and people like Deadtear would talk about how impossible it was to break into the market and compete with his 300% markup rigs, even though it was the easiest thing in the world to break his monopoly once people actually got over the bullshit and tried it. For some reason this strikes me as exceptionally ​gay, probably because you are not only lying to other blues, but also scaring them away from profitable opportunities that could support multiple people.+  ***Scare People Away:** Scare away the competition by implying that what you're doing is unprofitable,​ difficult, time-consuming,​ and frustrating. This has been done by greedy ​players ​in Goonfleet since Syndicate about moon mining, exploring, invention, rig manufacturing,​ implant importation,​ and even ratting. Pretty much anything that makes money will have people trying to dissuade others from trying it out. New game mechanics are especially vulnerable to this tactic, because good information may not be readily available about said new feature. For example, when rigs were first introduced they seemed over-expensive and nearly impossible to acquire sufficient quantities of, and people like Deadtear would talk about how impossible it was to break into the market and compete with his 300% markup rigs, even though it was the easiest thing in the world to break his monopoly once people actually got over the bullshit and tried it. For some reason this strikes me as exceptionally ​stupid, probably because you are not only lying to other blues, but also scaring them away from profitable opportunities that could support multiple people.
   ***Wreck Markets:** Done with a particular market? Fuck over the competition that you've been bitterly competing with by writing a [TELL] thread in PVP about how absurdly profitable whatever you were doing was, with how-to guides and profit formulas. Laugh as you move onto the next thing and your competition is stuck aboard a sinking ship swarming with stupid, greedy TESTies looking to make a quick buck. This happens with scamming every few months, and sort of happened with t2 module production. I'm not sure how it's profitable, but it feels patriotic to the swarm to do this whenever I get bored with a project.   ***Wreck Markets:** Done with a particular market? Fuck over the competition that you've been bitterly competing with by writing a [TELL] thread in PVP about how absurdly profitable whatever you were doing was, with how-to guides and profit formulas. Laugh as you move onto the next thing and your competition is stuck aboard a sinking ship swarming with stupid, greedy TESTies looking to make a quick buck. This happens with scamming every few months, and sort of happened with t2 module production. I'm not sure how it's profitable, but it feels patriotic to the swarm to do this whenever I get bored with a project.
   ***Relisting and False Competition:​** When you notice that there are very few sell orders that have all too reasonable prices, check if those orders'​ expiration date is coming up. This will indicate whether the sell order is older or newer. If it's older, you're golden, because you can buy that shit out and relist it. When you do this, divide your product between several over-priced sell orders with .01 price differences to make it seem like there are already several people competing over that product. This will scare off market opportunists that might compete by manufacturing or importing that product.   ***Relisting and False Competition:​** When you notice that there are very few sell orders that have all too reasonable prices, check if those orders'​ expiration date is coming up. This will indicate whether the sell order is older or newer. If it's older, you're golden, because you can buy that shit out and relist it. When you do this, divide your product between several over-priced sell orders with .01 price differences to make it seem like there are already several people competing over that product. This will scare off market opportunists that might compete by manufacturing or importing that product.
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 Do **NOT** Arbitrage Relist in TEST/Allied Sov, this is bluefucking and has diplomatic repercussions Do **NOT** Arbitrage Relist in TEST/Allied Sov, this is bluefucking and has diplomatic repercussions
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 +For non-arbitrage relisting rules see: https://​wiki.pleaseignore.com/​diplo:​marketguide
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