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| + | //Guide by Steven Jaydeeum. Contact me on discord for any questions.// | ||
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| =====Marketeering===== | =====Marketeering===== | ||
| Why bother marketeering? It's the most effective afk ISK generator in the game for one. Once orders are setup, order will continue to execute whether you are online or not. Money money money. In my first year of marketeering I made more than 600b. Not a typo. Read on if that sounds like something you want a piece of. | Why bother marketeering? It's the most effective afk ISK generator in the game for one. Once orders are setup, order will continue to execute whether you are online or not. Money money money. In my first year of marketeering I made more than 600b. Not a typo. Read on if that sounds like something you want a piece of. | ||
| - | ====Recommended Tools==== | + | ==== Recommended Tools ==== |
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| - | [[https://evernus.com/download/|Evernus]] | + | |
| [[https://github.com/GoldenGnu/jeveassets/releases|jEveAssets]] | [[https://github.com/GoldenGnu/jeveassets/releases|jEveAssets]] | ||
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| + | <del>[[http://evernus.anver.ee/|Evernus]] (this is not the original maintainer -- yes this site looks dodgy, but source code is available from [[https://bitbucket.org/slysmoke/evernus/src/default/|here]] if you'd like to build your own)</del> | ||
| + | //Both links dead, project abandoned?// | ||
| You can use Excel with Power Query to create ESI calls but I'd still mostly recommend using the above tools. | You can use Excel with Power Query to create ESI calls but I'd still mostly recommend using the above tools. | ||
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| ====Evernus Setup==== | ====Evernus Setup==== | ||
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| - | * The regions on the left are where will be queried for orders, the types on the right are which types we will import and check for profitability. Pretty self explanatory. If we wanted to look at t3 subsystems between Jita and Esoteria, select the regions Jita and Esoteria, and then ship modifications->subsystems. | + | * The regions on the left are where will be queried for orders, the types on the right are which types we will import and check for profitability. Pretty self explanatory. If we wanted to look at t3 subsystems between Jita and Esoteria, select the regions The Forge and Esoteria, and then ship modifications->subsystems. |
| * Go to the top of the importing tab, change the source to Jita IV - M4, change the destination to D-PNP9 - D-Pyongyang. Aggregate over # days will change the numbers like volume so they represent # days worth of volume. I use 3 days generally. When I had less capital, I used 1 day because I wanted to spread my capital over as many orders as possible. Price over m3 is the cost of importing per m3 between the two systems. Refer to freight.pleaseignore.com for official route prices, and the services offered forum for the unofficial ones. For example, 1500isk/m3 is the std rate from Jita to Esoteria at this point, so put 1500 here as we want to check Jita to Eso route. Use 1% for collatera. The buy or sell here is whether your collateral is based on the buy or sell price of the good you are buying. Choose as applicable. You can hide empty sell orders if you're using sell orders for purchases. The remaining (avg volume, price diff, margin) are filters. At the top you will see source price and destination price. Set these to represent where you will be getting your orders from. On a Jita to Eso route, if you're buying in Jita from sell orders? Then set your source as sell. Your destination would be set as sell since Eso doesn't generally have many buy orders set up. I recommend setting up your standard routes under the star button for ease of use. | * Go to the top of the importing tab, change the source to Jita IV - M4, change the destination to D-PNP9 - D-Pyongyang. Aggregate over # days will change the numbers like volume so they represent # days worth of volume. I use 3 days generally. When I had less capital, I used 1 day because I wanted to spread my capital over as many orders as possible. Price over m3 is the cost of importing per m3 between the two systems. Refer to freight.pleaseignore.com for official route prices, and the services offered forum for the unofficial ones. For example, 1500isk/m3 is the std rate from Jita to Esoteria at this point, so put 1500 here as we want to check Jita to Eso route. Use 1% for collatera. The buy or sell here is whether your collateral is based on the buy or sell price of the good you are buying. Choose as applicable. You can hide empty sell orders if you're using sell orders for purchases. The remaining (avg volume, price diff, margin) are filters. At the top you will see source price and destination price. Set these to represent where you will be getting your orders from. On a Jita to Eso route, if you're buying in Jita from sell orders? Then set your source as sell. Your destination would be set as sell since Eso doesn't generally have many buy orders set up. I recommend setting up your standard routes under the star button for ease of use. | ||
| * Now you can hit apply and you will get a result like this. | * Now you can hit apply and you will get a result like this. | ||
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| This will show you what meets the targets you set in green, and red is under-target. | This will show you what meets the targets you set in green, and red is under-target. | ||
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| Click on stockpile, then shopping list. | Click on stockpile, then shopping list. | ||
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| ====Relisting/export opportunities==== | ====Relisting/export opportunities==== | ||
| - | Before we go too far, familiarise yourself with the relisting rules [[diplo:marketguide|here]]. | + | Before we go too far, familiarise yourself with the relisting rules [[diplo:bylaws:market_policy|here]]. |
| Above I showed the route from importing items from high-sec to Esoteria. The same process can be completed for exporting items, or relisting items in our staging where they have been listed under Jita price. You set up the import the same except you reverse the source and destination and generally I switch the destination price to buy rather than sell orders. | Above I showed the route from importing items from high-sec to Esoteria. The same process can be completed for exporting items, or relisting items in our staging where they have been listed under Jita price. You set up the import the same except you reverse the source and destination and generally I switch the destination price to buy rather than sell orders. | ||
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| While you can set up a region-wide, or x-jump, buy orders in a citadel, they will not execute when people sell at other citadels at that price within your set jump range; they only work in other stations within the region. So if you were in Catch putting up salvage buy orders, a buy order in U-Q Keepstar for the region will not capture people selling salvage in GE- unless they are selling at the station. You will need orders at GE- Fort and any other little hubs that you might want to grab salvage from. Trade skill Procurement is useful here. Likewise, if you're deciding you want to start buying Jita buy value instead of buying from sell orders, placing orders in the low-tax havens here will allow you to still grab orders from Jita, but sells in other citadels than your buy orders will not work. | While you can set up a region-wide, or x-jump, buy orders in a citadel, they will not execute when people sell at other citadels at that price within your set jump range; they only work in other stations within the region. So if you were in Catch putting up salvage buy orders, a buy order in U-Q Keepstar for the region will not capture people selling salvage in GE- unless they are selling at the station. You will need orders at GE- Fort and any other little hubs that you might want to grab salvage from. Trade skill Procurement is useful here. Likewise, if you're deciding you want to start buying Jita buy value instead of buying from sell orders, placing orders in the low-tax havens here will allow you to still grab orders from Jita, but sells in other citadels than your buy orders will not work. | ||
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| + | ====Buy order reference price checking (custom station)==== | ||
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| + | Ok, so you've set up a whole bunch of buy orders and some time has passed. The market has probably shifted. Short of going through each order one by one, how to do we check that our orders are staying in line with Jita (or some other reference station?). | ||
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| + | Evernus allows you to set a custom station for your orders, so rather than return the price difference of the station the buy order is in (or sell order for that matter), you can set a custom station to have the price checked against there instead. In this case, if we wanted to check our Esoteria buy orders against a Jita reference price for sanity, select all your buy orders, then right click "set custom station" | ||
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| + | and then follow the dialog to select Jita IV - Moon 4 and hit ok. Run an import prices via web update and the prices returned for your buy orders will now match Jita buy orders. Anything with a negative number is overpriced compared to Jita. Do note that the red highlighting for overbid items now refers to Jita orders and not the actual location of the buy order so you will have to remove the custom station to get back to normal. To do that right click menu and "set custom station" and select no specific station again. | ||
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| + | ====Adding new citadels==== | ||
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| + | Evernus relies on hammertime api for its citadels, which is no longer being updated that I can see, so you will have to add your own citadels occasionally. | ||
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| + | Open the citadel manager | ||
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| + | {{:training:guides:evernus:evernus_2018-09-13_10-03-54.png|}} | ||
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| + | Add citadel | ||
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| + | Get the citadel id using copy from in-game | ||
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| + | {{ :training:guides:evernus:citadelid.mp4?800 |}} | ||
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| + | Add information to the citadel entry. | ||
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| + | {{:training:guides:evernus:evernus_2018-09-13_10-04-51.png|}} | ||
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