====UN Authorizes Aid Flotilla To OWN Territory==== Montolio does some math: ''I just wanted to share a little bit of personal rage with you. \\ OWN Alliance has 6 tech moons and 1 neo moon, this is at least 25b/mo, if not more. \\ They offer partial reimbursement on the following: interdictors, logistics \\ Thats it. \\ They charge 100 million per office and 250 million a month for a 50 man corporation to be in OWN. \\ What. The. Fuck. \\ Somebody is getting rich.'' http://forum.pleaseignore.com/index.php?topic=4995.0 The always eloquent DHD explains what happened next: ''Montolio made a thread about the fact that they had six Tech moons and only reimbursed logi and dictors; I said "That's fucking shenanigans" and hit up Montolio on Jabber. I then asked "Can I go fuck with them" and he replied with a more diplomatic "I don't fucking care, fuck off you aspie f*****t". \\ So I flew down to CU9, and upon the discovery of the fact that Deagol1 and Tereeeududrudrudruuduuruudrum are manchildren furiously mashing their fatass fingers against a keyboard to make what seem like words, I went to town. Because it was easy. \\ Then, when Deagol PMed Montolio, and bitched about me, Montolio sent me the logs. This is the part where my dick is out and I'm furiously masturbating, by the way. \\ So I troll some more, and I get some dudes riled up, and then a group of us come up with the idea to send a UN aid convoy down to CU9. So we all grab NPC goods (livestock, water, cigarettes, etc.) go and anchor a small warp disruptor outside their station, and begin making a tent city with supplies distributed in anchored cans. \\ \\ Then we formed a 30 person conga line. Which was fun. \\ \\ Oh, and during this time, Tez and BoodaBooda were working furiously to make videos while I wrote a UN press release.'' Initial press release: ''At 23:26 EVE Time, the United Nations Council For The Assistance of the Citizens of New Eden passed a proposal (213-2: United States and Israel the negative parties) for the United Nations to intervene in the central Deklein region of space. The party involved in the reception of aid is an entity knows as "OWN Alliance". The people of this country are ruled by a a dictator that is entirely unconcerned with the well-being of the citizens of his nation. The people live impoverished, unable to receive any sort of recourse for the vessels lost in combat engagements. \\ To aid in this issue, the The United Nations has approved an aid flotilla consisting of members of Test Alliance Please Ignore to CU9 in an effort to relieve the citizens of OWN Alliance. This flotilla will be carrying construction parts, water, food, livestock, and other commodities essential to basic living. Hopefully, by alleviating the need for the members of OWN Alliance to devote resources to their basic living, the citizens of this impoverished nation will be able to raise their standard of living to that of other spacefaring nations. \\ This will not be an easy task; the dictator of OWN Alliance has already ordered a no-contact policy for all members of OWN Alliance against interaction with members of the TEST Alliance Please Ignore aid flotilla. However, the flotilla has already arrived in the OWN Alliance capital and is currently distributing medicine, food and various supplies to the citizens in need of it most. We expect a full aid distribution infrastructure to be in place within the next fourteen days. \\ The dictator of OWN Alliance imposes draconian taxes on the citizens of his nation. Monthly dues, office rent, and other fees/costs are all imposed on members of the nation, and while taking such exorbitant fees, the dictator refuses to implement any infrastructure. The United Nations believes that these systems are essential to the survival of any spacefaring society. These underdeveloped systems include, but are not limited to; ship replacement, industrial assistance programs, and resource allocation infrastructure. \\ The United Nations is consistently committed to ensuring that all citizens of New Eden are cared for at a basic level; we feel it is our duty to assist developing spacefaring nations and ensure their ability to support themselves is stable. \\ \\ For more information, refer to these informative videos:\\ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l20G9nr7cgY\\ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxJbEi9Vn_M\\ \\ Photos from the field:\\ http://i.imgur.com/S2Ten.jpg\\ http://i.imgur.com/IOmSo.jpg\\ http://i.imgur.com/uvW5Q.png\\ http://i.imgur.com/sYNoT.png\\ http://i.imgur.com/VZgMQ.png\\ '' Kugutsumen threadnaught: http://www.kugutsumen.com/showthread.php?6915-UN-Authorizes-Aid-Flotilla-To-OWN-Territory Eve online thread: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1396199 Chatporn with OWN leaders: '' Montolio > Were you looking for me?\\ Deagol1 > o/\\ Deagol1 > ya can you talk with DurrHurrDurr\\ Deagol1 > hes in our local causing shit\\ Montolio > Whats he doing?\\ Deagol1 > going on about own isk and reimbersment\\ Montolio > Is it true?\\ Deagol1 > lol\\ Deagol1 > no\\ Deagol1 > thats why i am chatting with you \\ Montolio > TEST today discovered that OWN had 6 tech moons 1 neo moon charges 100mil/mo for an office and a corp of 50 pays 250 mil / mo in fees\\ Montolio > And that apparently you only reimburse logistics and interdictors\\ Montolio > If thats not the case, I can let people know\\ Deagol1 > we ahve been with tcf and around for many years\\ Deagol1 > you hvae been here 5 months\\ Deagol1 > we earned what we have\\ Deagol1 > and we spend anythign we make on the alliance\\ Deagol1 > even though this is none of your business\\ Montolio > I never said you didn't, but what is that ISK being spent on, if you don't mind answering for my curiosity?\\ Montolio > https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AlnyNGc6PAOwdG1LaW5EQlJ6VTNNQXZiU3haQmtZemc&hl=en&authkey=CKbl8ZwI#\\ Montolio > Thats all of TEST finances\\ Montolio > What we take in, what we spend, etc..\\ Deagol1 > you think its your business to tell other blues how to run there alliances?\\ Montolio > Not exactly, no\\ Deagol1 > you do that in real life?\\ Deagol1 > well...\\ Montolio > But if you aren't going to reimburse your pilots we are going to try to do it for you\\ Deagol1 > did you send the troll to own space?\\ Montolio > No, but we are discussing setting up a reimbursement fund based on donations for OWN pilots during fleet ops\\ Montolio > He probably got curious due to that discussion and went over to check it out\\ Deagol1 > lol cool thnx \\ Deagol1 > every little bit helps\\ Montolio > np m8\\ Montolio > We aren't all pyramid schemes\\ Montolio > :P\\ Deagol1 > re read the part above about our history and yours\\ Deagol1 > \\ Montolio > Its incredible that you can trick 1500 people into lining your pockets to be honest\\ Montolio > I wish my members were as gullable\\ Deagol1 > ?\\ Deagol1 > no one in own leadership is rich\\ Montolio > You make 25b + in moon profits alone\\ Deagol1 > as i said we ahve re spent all isk made on the alliance\\ Deagol1 > you can chgoose to not believe that\\ Deagol1 > i don't really care\\ Deagol1 > we have built 2 stations since we got the moons\\ Deagol1 > we have upgraded all our systems\\ Deagol1 > we have full logi and dic reimberse\\ Deagol1 > we also reimberse half caps\\ Montolio > We reimburse everything, have built a station, and have almost fully upgraded double the number of systems with less then half the moons or fees\\ Deagol1 > and regularly give shipa nd isk to pilots who are vvery active\\ Montolio > Just saying.\\ Deagol1 > our open is only for the couple typs to promote people to get in them\\ Montolio > "our open" ?\\ Deagol1 > add up the stations and the upgrades\\ Deagol1 > open reiembersment\\ Montolio > With your income levels you should be able to build a station every month\\ Deagol1 > we do others also but its not open to all\\\ Deagol1 > just the most active pilots\\ Montolio > A station is what, 20b?\\ Deagol1 > we had a corp that was very loayal too us and we gave them a mon for many months\\ Deagol1 > we have done that with a cou0ple corps\\ Montolio > So all the money is funneled to an upper class?\\ Deagol1 > lol i have 1.6 billion in my wallet\\ Deagol1 > i am far from rich\\ Deagol1 > and i am leader \\ Deagol1 > red also is not rich\\ Deagol1 > also putting up towers to get thigns going is not cheap\\ Deagol1 > we haven't had these moons for a long time really\\ Montolio > You said it yourself, you've been here for months\\ Deagol1 > we worked our ass's off and finallly we go somethign for it\\ Deagol1 > we have been with tcf for many years\\ Montolio > I can't fathom how you guys don't have a massive supercarrier fleet or something with that much income\\ Montolio > I don't think I have even seen an OWN supercarrier\\ Deagol1 > we only got the moons 6 or 7 months ago\\ Deagol1 > lol dude we have been running with the nc\\ Montolio > So you've made something between 125-150b in the last 6 months\\ Montolio > Where the fuck did all that go?\\ Deagol1 > we never ran in any dek coalition\\ Deagol1 > you need to join nc flets to see us\\ Deagol1 > read above\\ Montolio > That it went to the top corps?\\ Deagol1 > the alliance didn't control all m,oons\\ Montolio > Either way, its impressive that you can have that much ISK but such a narrow reimbursement policy\\ Deagol1 > ?\\ Deagol1 > lol dude we have over 75 billion in station and upgrades\\ Deagol1 > there was bnothign here when we got here\\ Deagol1 > and we were broke\\ Deagol1 > all since we got the moons has gone to upgradeing systems putting up stations reiembersment as much as we can and getting the moons running\\ Montolio > Okay, so 125b - 75b\\ Deagol1 > no one is rich thats a fact\\ Deagol1 > do the math\\ Montolio > So that leaves fifty billion left over\\ Deagol1 > no\\\ Deagol1 > your assuming all moons were fully upgraded the entire time\\ Deagol1 > because people want everythign at once we could't have them all doing tht for a long time\\ Deagol1 > your numbers are off\\ Deagol1 > if all the po's needed for complex reactions arn't upo you don't make all isk\\ Deagol1 > and thats a lot of cost\\ Deagol1 > people wanted the station and upgrades all at once\\ Montolio > Thats not counting reactions\\ Montolio > That base tech prices\\ Montolio > Thats*\\ Deagol1 > no base is like 2.5 maybe 3 on a good day per tech\\ Montolio > And you have 6 tech\\ Deagol1 > aye 15 a month or so\\ Deagol1 > we have spent over 75 billion\\ Deagol1 > not including reiembersment\\ Deagol1 > we also do caps reiemberse\\ Deagol1 > and ome of our corps have had control of the moons\\ Montolio > Where are you getting 15/mo?\\ Deagol1 > so we never made for the alliance anythign near 125 billion\\ Montolio > Tech is currently around 4b/mo\\ Montolio > at least afaik\\ Deagol1 > 2.5 billion times 6 moons\\ Deagol1 > if not all upgrades\\ Deagol1 > a basew tech makes 4 billion?\\ Montolio > yes, I believe so\\ Deagol1 > no our numbers are and have allways been 2.5 to 3 bill none complex\\ Deagol1 > 4 to 4.5 with complex\\ Montolio > You are terrible with moons or someone is skimming then\\ Deagol1 > lol dude\\ Montolio > Raw tech is 4b close to 5b a month right now\\ Montolio > without reactions\\ Montolio > When we moved in tech was about 3b / mo raw\\ Montolio > it hasn't been 2.5b for a long time\\ Deagol1 > 72k units times 17k = 1.2 billion\\ Deagol1 > you get 72k units a month and thats what they go for\\ Deagol1 > 2.5 sorry\\ Montolio > sec\\ Montolio > Let me dig up our spreadsheet\\ Montolio > https://spreadsheets0.google.com/ccc?key=tbbsVPTytE6ar7u8RV-Xt8A&authkey=CLWCmc8J&hl=en&authkey=CLWCmc8J#gid=1\\ Montolio > Can you view that?\\ Montolio > Thats a few months old\\ Montolio > July 30th wa the last time that was updated\\ Montolio > and prices have done nothing but go up\\ Deagol1 > how much per unit is that?\\ Montolio > 40k\\ Montolio > per unit its about 50-60k currently\\ Montolio > a tech moon is about 100 units per hour\\ Montolio > So thats lowend 3.6b unreacted\\ Montolio > *shrugs*\\ Montolio > Thats a lot of fucking money for you guys, especially with such limited reimbursements\\ Deagol1 > how much per piece was that sheet at?\\ Montolio > per unit?\\ Montolio > 40,142.00 ISK\\ Deagol1 > ya\\ Montolio > Current highest price in Jita is 60k for a buy order\\ Deagol1 > and low?\\ Montolio > well the lowest buy is obviously 0.01 heh\\ Deagol1 > your basing on it 40k per?\\ Montolio > We were in July\\ Montolio > The current low selling price is 61k/unit\\ Montolio > There is a buy order in Jita for 200k units @ 55,809\\ Montolio > Somebody is now telling me your stations were built with donation ISK?\\ Deagol1 > lol who is tlling you that?\\ Deagol1 > no\\ Montolio > Former own members\\ Montolio > "they had a big donation drive from their membership to fund the 2 stations"\\ Montolio > "they haven't paid the loans back yet"\\ Deagol1 > confirmed lier then\\ Deagol1 > lol that i not true\\ Deagol1 > is*\\ Montolio > Thats what people are telling me\\ Montolio > From the outside looking in, somebody is lining their pockets or you guys are grossly mismanaging your ISK\\ Deagol1 > well i am alliance leader and i am telling you they are liers \\ Montolio > Or you are building 3 titans and dont want to tell anyone\\ Deagol1 > \\ Deagol1 > you really shouldn't go around tellin alliance how they should run man thats seriously fucked up\\ Deagol1 > you been here a few months we been here years\\ Deagol1 > we earned what we have and we pour it back into the alliance\\ Montolio > So you deserve a little personal ISK right? ;)\\ Montolio > For your history\\ Deagol1 > you don't belive that i don't really care\\ Deagol1 > no one in own has gotten rich\\ Deagol1 > period\\ Montolio > that you know of*\\ Deagol1 > i have 1.6 billion in my wallet\\ Montolio > I am a total fucking r****d when it comes to moon shit and I still knew that base tech was 4-5b currently\\ Montolio > Your diplomat said you had outpost debts\\ Montolio > Jilozz did\\ Deagol1 > i wouold know i am leader me and Red \\ Deagol1 > did i or red?\\ Deagol1 > people can make mistakes\\ Montolio > So your saying not 1 ISK of donations or loans were used in making your stations?\\ Deagol1 > we had no donation drive\\ Deagol1 > if anyone has dontated randomly i'm sure thats happened\\ Montolio > Thats not what I have heard, but of course you are the alliance leader\\ Montolio > you would know\\ Montolio > 100 units per hour x 24 hours x 30 days = 72,000. 72,000 x 67,000 (current Jita sell price) = 4824000000, or 4.8 billion isk per month. Subtract whatever you pay for a month's POS fuel.\\ Montolio > This is the current Tech price math btw\\ Montolio > If you'd like I can have my industry guys generate some spreadsheets for you guys to use long term\\ Deagol1 > 1 sell order for 55k doesnt make it 67 current\\ Montolio > Lower it to 60 then\\ Deagol1 > either way we have been around years dude you don't think we should have stuff after years of service?\\ Montolio > I too would like a tech moon for personal income yes\\ Deagol1 > i don't have that\\ Montolio > Whats the retirement age? 6 months and then you get one?\\ Deagol1 > but after years i probbly should\\ Montolio > HAha\\ Montolio > Someone is rolling around in ISK over there\\ Montolio > We have less then half your moons and we have 30b in reserve\\ Montolio > I can only imagine what you guys are sitting on\\ Deagol1 > so you don't think an alliance should make ok isk after years of dedicated service to the cause?\\ Montolio > As far as I can see your alliance isn't\\ Montolio > A select group is\\ Deagol1 > http://own.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=7759350\\ Deagol1 > \\ Deagol1 > we allways have been very active\\ Deagol1 > and we spend all our isk 0on the alliance\\ Deagol1 > i listed many things that we have to spend isk on and do and you seem to think were jsut pocketing it\\ Deagol1 > were not\\ Montolio > The things you list + your current policies don't even come close to accounting for the ISK your alliance -should- have\\ Deagol1 > lol dude\\ Deagol1 > we never controlled all moons\\ Deagol1 > we have spend many billions\\ Deagol1 > we are morons for not taking isk for ourselfs actuallly\\ Montolio > So you guys don't reimburse drakes? fleet bs? cruisers? hacs?\\ Deagol1 > after thi many years of bullshit we deserve it\\ Deagol1 > but we don't take it\\ Montolio > I've also heard that if TeRedrum wants to run an anom that you are in he will tell you to get out or be podded, true?\\ Deagol1 > as i told you we reiemberse other things all the time but only to very active pilots\\ Deagol1 > no that is not true\\ Montolio > So you have selective reimbursements for the elite upper class\\ Montolio > Who gives a shit about those plebs anyways\\ Deagol1 > dude you really listen to ex members on alliance policy?\\ Deagol1 > not jsut elite\\ Deagol1 > verya active\\\ Deagol1 > i don't give a shit if your 6 years old if your not active your useless\\ Montolio > Haha, okay.\\ Deagol1 > can you get this troll out of our system?\\ Montolio > He will probably be helping to administer our OWN reimbursement program\\ Montolio > we are still hashing out the details\\ Montolio > Should we require certain fits?\\ Deagol1 > your a dick \\ Deagol1 > i have explained\\ Montolio > Most of the time, yes.\\ Deagol1 > i see that heh\\ Montolio > you're* by the way\\ Deagol1 > k ty\\ Montolio > No problem\\ Montolio > My members always correct me\\ Deagol1 > cool\\ Montolio > They tend to be helpful when they aren't shafted constantly by the alliance leaders :(\\ Deagol1 > dude wtf\\ Montolio > Should it be called "TEST Alliance: Financial Aid Division" or "Test Alliance Humanitarian Aid, Please Ignore"\\ Deagol1 > so you condone DurrHurrDurr smacking own in local?\\ Montolio > Is it funny or true?\\ Deagol1 > it's complete bullshit and he has no clue\\ Montolio > I bet its funny at least sometimes\\ Deagol1 > i have explained it now to you though\\ Deagol1 > so...\\ Montolio > I mean he isn't always irritating\\ Deagol1 > yes he is \\ Deagol1 > him and rastino\\ Montolio > Rastino made me laugh once, I think it was some sort of dead baby joke if I recall\\ Montolio > Probably inappropriate\\ Deagol1 > rastino link stuck\\ Montolio > "link struck" ?\\ Deagol1 > aye i linked his name to check his history and now unless i enter it it won't go away\\ Montolio > He trolls you AND breaks your client\\ Montolio > Thats dedication\\ Deagol1 > heh try linke a name but not say it \\ Deagol1 > he keeps locking own why?\\ Montolio > Who?\\ Deagol1 > DurrHurrDurr\\ Montolio > Maybe he is trying to rep\\ Deagol1 > leaving station means you don't need rep normallly \\ Montolio > I dunno, you guys probably charge for repair services\\ Deagol1 > lol\\ Deagol1 > not sure if the NC will like an alliance that griefs other blues in local for no reason hmm...\\ Montolio > Probably not\\ Deagol1 > and your chat here says very clearly you support his actions\\ Deagol1 > and you are leader \\ Montolio > Somebody has to help your members\\ Montolio > They pay dues without reimbursements\\ Deagol1 > heh k i'm sure this will workout very well for you \\ Montolio > It will end hilariously I am sure!\\ Deagol1 > woot\\ Montolio > http://i.imgur.com/Mrsob.png\\ Deagol1 > lol gw\\ Montolio > http://i.imgur.com/oyxq6.jpg\\ Deagol1 > weee\\ Montolio > We are working on a video now I think\\ Deagol1 > nice\\ Montolio > http://tinyurl.com/own-reimbursement\\ Montolio > program details will be up soon\\ Deagol1 > dues go to the top 5 pvp corps each month fyi \\ Deagol1 > kk\\ Montolio > "We aren't a pyramid scheme, promise!"\\ Deagol1 > such hate for a new alliance damn\\ Montolio > Haha\\ Deagol1 > \\ Montolio > I'll check back with you later m8 when we have more details, if you have approved fits you can forward them to me\\ '' '' Montolio > http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/5647/mrsobbetter.png\\ Montolio > LOL\\ Deagol1 > lol newb \\ Montolio > We've anchored free water outside your station\\ Deagol1 > thnx man your swell \\ Montolio > http://imgur.com/mfela.png\\ Montolio > new one btw\\ Deagol1 > now you sent a crew to grief us?\\ Montolio > Which? The badgers?\\ Deagol1 > rgr\\ Montolio > Thats the UN Aid Flotilla\\ Deagol1 > lol\\ Montolio > So now you are trying to censor the truth?\\ Montolio > Please block all test alliance if you see them in local. \\ \\ They have decided to start grieving us. This is completely unprovoked.\\ \\ We are dealing with this in private please block them until further notice.\\ Deagol1 > lol spying on your friends\\ Deagol1 > you guys are class \\ Deagol1 > and yes i did just send that ofcourse\\ Montolio > Your members are forwarding me this stuff\\ Deagol1 > heh\\ Montolio > So we factored your member dues into the estimated moon goo and office fees and are ballparking about 36.3b / month in alliance income before any sort of ratting or mission taxes and station fees\\ Deagol1 > lol do i care what you think?\\ Montolio > Do you?\\ Deagol1 > none of your business\\ Deagol1 > neg i do not\\ Montolio > Well I care what you think!\\ Deagol1 > heh k\\ Deagol1 > i think you need to pay yuor dues and earn more\\ Montolio > Your pay scale doesn't go up to 2500 though\\ Deagol1 > rather then cry for more like little children \\ Montolio > how much is that? like 750mil ?\\ Montolio > We just donated our first drake btw\\ Deagol1 > you need more moons then you could send us more \\ Deagol1 > havig fun yet?\\ Montolio > You mean you will take moons on our behalf? That would be nice of you\\ Deagol1 > tell you what give us one of your moons thenyou don't have to send us aid?\\ Deagol1 > save you in logistics\\ Montolio > We are trying to help the people of OWN, not the brutal government that is withholding precious resources that the people desperately need\\ Deagol1 > lol\\ Montolio > With the corruption in your administration focusing our resources at the top would accomplish nothing, what we need is a grassroots movement.\\ Deagol1 > heh\\ Deagol1 > i think i found a name for your alliance man\\ Deagol1 > newbs\\ Montolio > Already taken\\ Deagol1 > you will leanr you have to earn stuff not cry for it\\ Deagol1 > learn*\\ Deagol1 > takes some time you will be ok\\ Deagol1 > this griefing locals plan might not be great though heh\\ Montolio > Its a terrible plan\\ Deagol1 > heh rgr\\ Montolio > You seem mad though\\ Deagol1 > we have done nothing\\ Deagol1 > this is alllllll you \\ Deagol1 > nothing wrong that is heh\\ Deagol1 > mad?\\ Montolio > Yeah\\ Deagol1 > heh you don't know he\\ Montolio > Why? Are you or are you not mad?\\ Deagol1 > no i am not mad\\ Deagol1 > newbs do dumb stuff nothign to get mad about\\ Montolio > True enough, its just that you seemed mad.\\ Montolio > You can let me know if you care, we can talk about it.\\ Deagol1 > when?\\ Deagol1 > show me?\\ Deagol1 > heh\\ Montolio > Well you did call us newbs\\ Montolio > That hurt my feelings\\ Deagol1 > thats fact man heh\\ Deagol1 > lol\\ Deagol1 > want me to start reposting our earlier chat?\\ Montolio > To where?\\ Deagol1 > to here\\ Deagol1 > to show where you were mean first many times?\\ Deagol1 > over and over?\\ Montolio > That seems like it would take a lot of effort\\ Deagol1 > not really\\ Montolio > What would that accomplish?\\ Deagol1 > Montolio > That hurt my feelings\\ Deagol1 > Deagol1 > to show where you were mean first many times?\\ Deagol1 > just making sure you understand who started all tis is all\\ Montolio > http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1396199\\ Montolio > http://www.kugutsumen.com/showthread.php?6915-UN-Authorizes-Aid-Flotilla-To-OWN-Territory&p=120971#post120971\\ Deagol1 > i don't read forums i hear they give you acne\\ Deagol1 > whats it say?\\ Montolio > Explaining what we are doing\\ Deagol1 > dude jsut needed one word hope you didn't use more and waste your time\\ Deagol1 > i kow you know what that word is \\ Deagol1 > know*\\ Montolio > masturbation?\\ Deagol1 > newb\\ Deagol1 > good try though\\ Montolio > I would prefer masturbation\\ Deagol1 > miss's the point though\\ '' The Mittani is not amused: '' CEOing was calm last update, and I wrote a lot of words about administrative crap no one cared about. This update is more about conversations with or about enraged neighbors eating up vast amounts of my time. It seems that my role as Fuzzy, Adorable, Completely Tyrant of Deklein sometimes boils down to being a glorified kindergarten teacher; I have to spend a lot of time keeping TEST from eating paste and/or stabbing OWN in the eye with a pencil. This week I was looking the other way, TEST somehow grabbed the pencil and has been going after OWN with the implacable determination that only a six-year-old in a mood can muster. \\ The timing couldn't have been worse, because I had already spent an enormous amount of energy working with OWN and trying to convince their leadership that I really wasn't about to tear them into bloody shreds and decorate VFK with little origami cranes made out of their skin. Understandably, after abruptly decapitating BCA, there was a lot of mutual mistrust to work out; however, we got through it, and OWN began showing up massively on our ops. For example, on tonight's strategic op we had 23 OWN subcaps and four capitals chewing on Ev0ke with us. I like that. That makes me happy. That should make you happy, too. \\ So I went from a lot of convos with TeRedrum and Jilozz working on integration and understanding to a lot of convos trying to somehow restrain TEST from trolling OWN into a rampage, cascade, or breakdown. This began with the UN Aid Convoy dramadey, which I can't openly admit that I found absolutely hilarious if completely inappropriate. This pranke promptly re-convinced most of OWN that I wanted to murder them, despite having nothing to do with it. For a while I tried to be diplomatic and reassuring, then I ended up snapping and telling OWN that they needed to man up and learn how to troll back, yelled at Montolio about how I don't care what OWN does with its pilots, and took my ball and went home. \\ \\ Apparently my desire to avoid drama convos and play with my dollies (ie, my personal dreadnaught armada) was interpreted by TEST as a great chance to grab that pencil again and really get OWN good this time. TEST has now completely audited OWN's books for them and are spamming an unfriendly looking spreadsheet in every channel they can find. Right now it is 3am Central time. This isn't the best time to write a CEO Update under normal circumstances, but OWN and TEST are napping at the moment, and pretty much all of tomorrow is going to be wasted sorting this crap out and trying to mollify various angry or stabby parties, so this was my ~one chance~ to get this out. '' A couple of weeks pass... '' OWN alliance is being evicted from Deklein for their leadership's repeated refusals to submit api keys to explain their breathtaking financial malfeseance. Vuk will be finding them a new home on the eastern front. Over the past two months the leadership of OWN have demonstrated a persistant resistance to working with us in the region when not outright conspiring to try to poison us to the rest of our allies. Despite weeks of patient restraint on my part, my tolerance has reached its end. OWN will be decamping to Venal, or wherever; I don't give a fuck. They have a week to evacuate their membership's assets and must commence de-sovving their territory immediately. If they resist or attempt to fight they will be reset and purged with extreme prejudice. Please be prepared to ensure their safe exit from Deklein should their leadership continue to display their signature disregard for our ownership of this region. \\ *** This was a broadcast from themittani, replies are not monitored *** '' From Vile Rat: '' Dear friends a matter of sadness and regret befalls us all \\ Over the course of our time in Eve we've lived in a great many regions. I started back in the original Syndicate days and loved it, then rejoiced as we invaded Cloud ring as it was fun and our first step into the great realm of conquerable 0.0. We lost but moved on to the south and conquered pretty much the whole thing, it was fun. We all know the story behind our collapse in Delve and our eventual rebirth amongst our friends in Deklein. TCF opened their doors to us and when they decided the time was right they granted their realm to us to manage and care for as they reached their twilight years. We have been good stewards of this region and have rebuilt our empire from its riches while making some really good friends and expanding our future possibilities. \\ Inevitably as we solidified operational control of Deklein and the formation of the Deklein Coalition there were inevitable problems, namely existing tenants who felt the power vacuum presented an opportunity for self advancement at our expense. This thread is naturally about our former tenant OWN alliance. \\ We have exercised herculean restraint over the course of our repeated attempts to reach a diplomatic solution with OWN alliance. Normally when faced with contempt and disobedience we have reacted with force, but we tried a new tactic of negotiation and patience with OWN and gave them every opportunity to buy into our plan for the region and to get on board with our greater plan that would enable every member of the DC to reach success and advancement in their place in eve. They have rejected every attempt to coexist and instead obstinately continued to express that they were our equals and not a member of the coalition we lead. They would continuously thumb their nose at our military adventures while touting their deployments with the NC as some sort of measuring stick for their worthiness to hold the little strip of Deklein they squatted on. \\ We tried but sadly we failed. Our best diplomatic efforts were not enough to convince them to be a part of what we are building so we have asked them to depart our region for locales unknown. They have one week to get the fuck out and then maybe they will help the NC maybe they will fly off into the sunset. \\ So with a heavy heart I retreat to the cold comfort of the 90's superband Semisonic and leave you lyrics to express my sorrowful feelings \\ ~closing time, You don't have to go home but you can't stay here~ \\ \\ Get the fuck out OWN, you're dead to us. \\ Let them depart, don't harass them, but if they aren't gone in a week we'll be revisiting this post. \\ '' Another week passes... OWN is the gift that keeps on giving. ''\\ (9:45:15 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: apparently own want ... compensation for the stations!\\ (9:45:21 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: I don't think they understand what the dynamic is here.\\ (9:46:35 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: they gonna compensate us for the ammo we're about to have to use tearing down their shit?\\ (9:46:44 AM) own-own-teredrum: only pos you cried about was the 6 tech moon pos own had, which you asked for within 24 hours, which you know hold control of\\ (9:46:54 AM) own-own-teredrum: vile come shoot my shit\\ (9:47:03 AM) own-own-teredrum: you aggress my guys we will fight back\\ (9:47:04 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: ok well since you asked.\\ (9:47:24 AM) own-own-teredrum: all you wanted was the moons , you have them\\ (9:47:29 AM) own-own-teredrum: were leaving\\ (9:47:31 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: no that is incorrect.\\ (9:47:40 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: We said the moons within 24 hours and evac within a week\\ (9:47:55 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: minus the supers that we acknowledge are in build\\ (9:47:56 AM) own-own-teredrum: well evac when all our stuff is out\\ (9:48:02 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: your week is up.\\ (9:48:03 AM) own-own-teredrum: which is nearly complete\\ (9:48:06 AM) own-own-teredrum: so relax\\ (9:48:17 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: No\\ (9:48:24 AM) own-own-teredrum: like i said you aggro our shit we will fight back\\ (9:48:46 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: http://coalition.mor...hp?topic=1264.0 second post in the thread\\ (9:48:54 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: it might look familiar, it's my post! of the convo I had with you!\\ (9:49:03 AM) own-own-teredrum: your forum spam means shit to me\\ (9:49:11 AM) own-own-teredrum: like i said were alomst out\\ (9:49:18 AM) own-own-teredrum: almost\\ (9:49:26 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: No you're giving us the run around and not responding when our guys ask for information\\ (9:50:01 AM) own-own-teredrum: sorry own doesnt bow to goon\\ (9:50:04 AM) own-own-teredrum: like some\\ (9:50:14 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: wait correct me if I'm wrong,\\ (9:50:25 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: but aren't we discussing you not getting your shit and getting the fuck out quite quick enough for our liking?\\ (9:50:40 AM) own-own-teredrum: i dont care what you like tbh\\ (9:50:48 AM) own-own-teredrum: were leaving\\ (9:50:51 AM) own-own-teredrum: leave it at that\\ (9:51:16 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: well if you aren't gone by the close of business today,\\ (9:51:24 AM) own-own-teredrum: then what\\ (9:51:24 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: we're just gonna assume you aren't going to leave.\\ (9:51:30 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: and your week will be up.\\ (9:51:43 AM) own-own-teredrum: and like i said, if you aggro own, we will fight back\\ (9:51:58 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: No you won't, get off your unbelievably short high horse.\\ (9:52:56 AM) own-own-teredrum: your the internet tough guy and im done shitting up jabber of your nonsense, were leaving dek, we should be done in less than 3 days tops. you have our tech moons.\\ (9:53:06 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: well if you aren't gone by boot,\\ (9:53:06 AM) own-own-teredrum: so im sure a few more days you can accomidate\\ (9:53:37 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: we could but we choose not to. What point is a deadline if you just ignore it\\ (9:53:50 AM) own-own-teredrum: im sure you will honor it o/\\ (9:54:02 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: we have haven't we? We haven't popped your nyx in build either.\\ (9:54:11 AM) own-own-teredrum: and you wont either\\ (9:54:16 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: or you'll do what?\\ (9:54:23 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: really let's go down this path a few steps.\\ (9:54:34 AM) own-own-teredrum: your a joke , why you guys even here is beyond me\\ (9:54:44 AM) own-own-teredrum: ask goon\\ (9:54:45 AM) condi-gewns-vile-rat: really go ahead and finish the sentence. What are you going to do?\\ (9:54:51 AM) own-own-teredrum: no drama till goon showed up \\ '' A couple of hours after this chat, OWN dropped sov in their systems. Except for FO8M, where they have a CSAA making a supercap... which Pandemic Legion promptly attacked. Oh the humanity. '' Dear friends, a tragedy has befallen our fair region. Our mortal enemies, the knaves of Pandemic Legion, have launched a cowardly attack against the CSAA of our former guests OWN alliance. This action is one which I condemn in the strongest possible terms: it is (dare I say it?) a most ungentlemanly thing to do, something one might expect from one of the (heavens!) lower classes. Absolutely despicable. Consider this announcement my wagging, disapproving finger in PL's direction. \\ \\ *** This was a broadcast from themittani to all, replies are not monitored *** ''